(NL100 HU) Turn play

[LoveisHell]

This is the first hand and villain is from russia if that makes a difference. He bought in for 90bb.

PF: I think PF is marginal, but I'm geting 1:2,5 odds so calling cant be terrible. The problem is that I'm readless.

Flop: I think I can try to steal here and show a profit, since a lot of people c/f this flop.

Turn: On the turn I'm a bit lost, since I usually bet here as a bluff because I have FE against his weak range. The problem is that he's an unknown, so I don't really wanna bluff here. Do you think checking is optimal?



No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Hero (SB) ($100)
BB ($90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, 5
Hero bets $2.50, BB raises $6, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($14) 3, 8, 10 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10, BB calls $10

Turn: ($34) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($34) J (2 players)
BB bets $20, Hero raises $83 (All-In), BB calls $53 (All-In)

Total pot: $180

[Riksman]

Calling pf is pretty marginal, as you know and I might even fold this particular hand to a small rr pf, because of reverse implied odds. I much rather would have T8o etc. Flop bet is pretty std, because i wonder that there is a lot of players who will cf this flop as you said and it doesn`t really matter if you get cr, because it is an easy fold. I actually like the turn check, because you don`t have reads and it a shitty spot, if you get cr and when called I wonder you should shove the river as a bluff game theorywise with a number of cards(like Qx, Jx Kx..), but it is a weird spot vs. unknown and it is always nice to barrel the Q river and see villain snap call with 66 or something. I also think that you have great implied odds when you check behind the turn and hit the river.

[LoveisHell]

Thanks for the reply Riksman.

PF: I admit it's marginal and it has some reverse implied odds. Still I think it's going to be pfofitable over long run especially since people do strange things early in the match. You can definately fold this too.

FLOP: Agree with the flop

Turn: I still feel I have some FE over his range since he looks pretty weak. I agree that the river is going to be ugly if he does't fold, but I don't have much behind and he could have a draw. Also I think he pushes all the hands he's going to play here, but who knows. I don't think we have much implied odds since ourt hand is pretty face up if we raise and he is likely to shutdown with most hands.

[Riksman]

I still think, that you might get called by a 9d+ on the river when you cbehind the turn and hit on the river. you never know. I would much rather bet on any diamond turn, if it does not pair the board. On the turn the villain is folding random overs obv, but I dont think thah they are too big portion of villains range and he might be really stubborn with some 66(obv not too likely, because of the pf 3bet). I think that there is only one hand that makes any sense, if villain has any idea of this game, 99, and i dont think that he is folding the turn too often with that hand. I remember Townsend speaking these kind of situation like 2 years ago and he prefered c on the turn. If you bet the turn I think you should know wheter to bluff (and wich cards) or not on the river. it much harder to do a mistake on the river when you check the turn imo.

[Krenjuussa]

meh, i'd usually fold pf but calling isnt too bad.

Like the bet on flop cause as said above many people tend to fold this flop cause it hits your range better than theirs.

The problem checking back the turn is that it puts a whole bunch of air/draws into your range, and also takes almost all the actual hands out. Dont think u would check back Tx here and definately not 8x. So unless u bet the turn you get into a lot of problems on river if u miss(cause u cant rep shit anymore). The proplem on betting the turn is that sometimes u might get CR allin, but with the villain c-c the flop i think that happens pretty rarely.